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Is there a general expression for ancillary statistics in exponential families?

Posted on 1/31/2016
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An i.i.d sample from a scale family with c.d.f. has as an ancillary statistic if depends on the sample only through .

  1. Is this result also sufficient?
  2. Is there a parallel result for a general exponential family which is not necessarily a scale family?(not asymptotic results, see update below)

If yes, I want to see some reference; If no, why is it not possible?

Note : Reading B. Efron's paper on the geometry on exponential families I now believe that this should somehow relate to the geometric nature of the exponential families.

But I have difficulty imagining what geometric object ancillary statistics should correspond to. Firstly I thought it should be the normal bundle, but later I found it only sufficient.


Update on this question:

After a careful look into [1], I think by ancillary statistics I mean the likelihood ratio (derived) ancillary statistics, not the Efron-Hinkley affine ancillary statistics. [1,Fig1] showed the difference in their marginal densities.

The results pointed out in [2] by a nice comment by @kjetilbhalvorsen below do not address my question.

[2] discussed several examples around pp.30-45, and proposed a simple case where S-sufficient S-ancillary are simultaneously introduced. i.e. are the parameter of the exponential family, and then is the minimal sufficient statistics for the parameter of interest.We call the statistics an S-cut if the distribution depends only on and the distribution of only depends on . If we look it via factorization, this actually prompt us to . Geometrically this only means that we can find a subspace for statistic and write them in form of direct product. This is not interesting since we know the minimal sufficient statistics does not always exist. One useful example in [2] is that it gave the approximation formula (-formula, 6.10)for abritrary ancillary statistics and later proved it is -consistent. However, it does not reveal any geometric feature since if then any such aprroximation essentially describing locally Gaussian space.

[1]Pedersen, Bo V. "A comparison of the Efron-Hinkley ancillary and the likelihood ratio ancillary in a particular example." The Annals of Statistics (1981): 1328-1333.

[2]Cox, D. R., and O. E. Barndorff-Nielsen. Inference and asymptotics. Vol. 52. CRC Press, 1994.

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To address the questions regarding ancillary statistics in exponential families:

1. Sufficiency of Ratio-Based Ancillarity in Scale Families

For an i.i.d. sample from a scale family with c.d.f. ( F\left(\frac{x}{\sigma}\right) ), a statistic ( S(X) ) that depends only on the ratios ( \frac{X_1}{X_n}, \ldots, \frac{X_{n-1}}{X_n} ) is indeed ancillary (its distribution is independent of...

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Short answer

  1. For an i.i.d. scale model X1,…,Xn with distribution F(x/σ), the “ratio” characterization is not only sufficient but (modulo null sets and under standard regularity) also essentially necessary: an exact ancillary is, almost surely, a function of a maximal invariant under the scale group. Vectors such as (X1/Xn,…,Xn−1/Xn), or any equivalent maximal invariant (e.g. X/∥X∥ for a chosen...
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  1. EXACT SCALE FAMILIES

Let

    X = (X1 , … , Xn) ,           Xi  i.i.d.  with c.d.f.  F(x/σ) ,  σ>0

and let G = (0,∞) be the multiplicative group acting on the sample space ℝn by

    g·x = (g x1 , … , g xn)   (g>0 , x∈ℝn).

The model is equivariant: Pσ is the image of P1 by the action g = σ.
Put

    I(x) = ( x1/xn , … , x(n-1)/xn)

(any other complete s...

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Aug 1, 2025, 12:00 AM

This is an interesting question about the structure of ancillary statistics in exponential families. Let me address your questions systematically.

1. Sufficiency of the Scale Family Result

For scale families with CDF , you correctly note that functions of the ratios are ancillary. This is indeed necessary and sufficient for scale families.

**Pr...

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<think> We are addressing a question about ancillary statistics in exponential families. The original question has two parts:
  1. Is the result that for a scale family with c.d.f. ( F(x/\sigma) ), an ancillary statistic ( S(X) ) depends on the sample only through the ratios ( X_1/X_n, \dots, X_{n-1}/X_n ) also sufficient? That is, is the converse true?

  2. Is there a parallel result for a ge...

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Aug 1, 2025, 12:00 AM

Ancillary Statistics in Exponential Families: Geometric Perspective

To properly address your question about ancillary statistics in exponential families, I'll need to clarify some concepts and then address your specific queries.

For Scale Families

First, regarding your question about scale families: Yes, the condition is both necessary and sufficient. If a statistic S(X) depends on the sam...

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Aug 1, 2025, 12:00 AM

This is an excellent and deep question that touches upon some foundational concepts in statistical inference and their geometric interpretations. Let's break it down.

1. Ancillary Statistics in Scale Families

You are correct about the characterization of ancillary statistics for a pure scale family. Let's formalize it to answer your first question.

Let be an i.i.d. sample ...

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Aug 1, 2025, 12:00 AM

Below the notation

X = (X₁,…,Xₙ) sample of size n
Pσ law of X when the density is (1/σ)f(x/σ) (scale family)
T(X) a (minimal) sufficient statistic
A(X) a candidate ancillary statistic (its law must not depend on the parameter)

  1. The scale family

The model {Pσ : σ>0 } is generated by the action of the multiplicative group G = ℝ⁺ on the sa...

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Here is what one finds if one works it out carefully:

1. Scale‐families (and, by the same token, any one‐dimensional group–family)
–– If (X_1,\dots,X_n) are i.i.d. from a scale family with c.d.f.\ (F(x/\sigma)), then the σ–field of all ancillary statistics is exactly the σ–field generated by the maximal invariant under the scale–group, namely [ \Bigl{\tfrac{X_1}{X_n},,\do...

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