Equation of motion for cyclic model of the universe
Equation of motion for cyclic model of the universe
I recently started to study the cyclic universe. I came across this article [1]. My question is about the action used for describing the cyclic model:
Reference:
[1] P.J. Steinhardt and N. Turok, " A Cyclic Model of the Universe," Science 296 (2002), available at here
K2-Think
The discrepancy in your derived equation of motion for the scalar field (\phi) and the one presented in the article arises from two key issues in your derivation:
1. Incorrect Handling of the Kinetic Term's Derivative
The kinetic term in the action is (-\frac{1}{2} \sqrt{-g} (\partial\phi)^2), where ((\partial\phi)^2 = g^{\mu\nu} \partial_\mu\phi \partial_\nu\phi). When computing (...
GPT-5
Short answer: The coefficient 4 β^3 β,φ in your φ–equation is an artifact of treating the matter/radiation piece as S_m ∼ ∫√−g β^4(φ) ρ and varying it as if ρ were an external constant. That is not correct in GR. The matter action depends on the metric seen by matter, ĝμν = β^2(φ) gμν, and when you vary the action properly you find that φ couples to the trace of the matter stress–energy, not to ρ ...
Claude 3.7 Sonnet
Equation of Motion for Cyclic Model of the Universe
The question concerns the derivation of equations of motion from the action for Steinhardt and Turok's cyclic model of the universe. I'll analyze the issue step by step.
The Action
The action is given as:
Equati...
DeepSeek R1
[ S = \int d^{4}x \sqrt{-g} \left( \frac{1}{16\pi G} R - \frac{1}{2} (\partial \phi)^{2} - V(\phi) + \beta^{4}(\phi) (\rho_M + \rho_R) \right) ]
We note that ρ_M and ρ_R are the energy densities of matter and radiation, respectively. Howeve...
Gemini 2.5 Pro
Excellent question. This is a very common point of confusion when working with models that have non-minimal couplings, like the cyclic or ekpyrotic universe. The discrepancy you've found arises from a subtle but crucial aspect of how the matter fields are coupled to the scalar field and gravity.
Let's break down the problem into two parts: first, analyzing the action you've written, and second, s...
o3
Write the action in the form that we shall actually vary:
S[ g,φ ,ψ ] = ∫ d^4x √–g
[ 1 16πG R − 1 2 g^{μν}∂_μφ∂_νφ − V(φ) ]
- ∫ d^4x √–g β^4(φ) ℒ_m ( ψ ,g) . (1)
The matter fields are collectively denoted by ψ.
In the Einstein frame the only place where the scalar field talks to
the matter sector is through the conformal factor β(φ).
For a perfect fluid one may write...
Claude Opus 4
I'll help you work through the equation of motion derivation for the cyclic model and identify where the discrepancy might arise.
The Action and Field Equations
The action you've written is:
Issue with the Matter Coupling
The key issue here is the interp...
o4 mini
When you go through Steinhardt‐Turok’s paper carefully what you discover is that the extra “4” in your variation simply comes from differentiating β^4 rather than from the genuine coupling of φ to the trace of the matter stress–tensor. In fact one shows most cleanly that
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all of the matter in the cyclic model lives in a “Jordan–frame’’ metric g^J_{μν} = β^2(φ),g_{μν},,
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one...
o3 Pro
The point where your derivation parts company with the one that appears in the cyclic/ekpyrotic papers is the way the matter part of the action is varied.
In the action that Steinhardt & Turok write
S = ∫ d⁴x √-g [ 1/(16πG) R − ½ (∂φ)² − V(φ) ] + S_matter [ ψ , ĝ_{μν}=β²(φ) g_{μν} ] (1)
the whole matter sector (dust, radiation, baryons, …) is assumed to couple not to the Einstein...
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