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Circles of radius all touch a middle circle. How to make the middle circle as small as possible?

Posted on 1/16/2023
UQ ID:295
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Non-overlapping circles of radius are all externally tangent to a middle circle.

How should we arrange the surrounding circles, in order to minimize the middle circle's radius ?

Take for example.

On the left, going anticlockwise the radii are , and . On the right, going anticlockwise the radii are and . How should the circles be arranged to minimize ? Here is a desmos graph where you can try different arrangements for the case . My attempt For general , call the radii of the surrounding circles going anti-clockwise, . Draw line segments from the centre of the middle circle to the centre of each surrounding circle. So we have angles at the centre of the middle circle. Each of these angles can be expressed in terms of , using the law of cosines. The sum of the angles is . So we have: This simplifies to: We want to assign each a unique value among so that is minimized. But how? Is there a general pattern? Conjectured answer I think the following general procedure will make the middle circle as small as possible. Take for example. We ignore the at first; it will be placed last. First put down the numbers in pyramid-fashion, from top to down and from left to right, like the red numbers below. Then put down the numbers in pyramid-fashion also, but between the previous rows, like the blue numbers below.

This gives the order of radii going around the circle: . Then put the circle with radius anywhere you like, as long as it fits without disturbing other circles. For larger values of , there may be multiple small circles that can fit between other circles without disturbing them. Put those last. Intuitively, this procedure minimizes the tendency of the large surrounding circles to take up space around the middle circle. You can see this in the diagrams above with , looking specifically at the two largest surrounding circles in each case. Anyway, it's just a conjecture for now. Notice that this conjecture implies that, for , the arrangement I showed above on the right, yields the minimum radius of the middle circle. I don't think the middle circle can be any smaller.

Keywords & Tags
geometry
optimization
circles
discrete-geometry
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To minimize the radius ( R ) of the middle circle surrounded by non-overlapping circles of radii ( 1, 2, \ldots, n ), the optimal arrangement involves strategically placing larger circles with smaller ones in between to reduce the sum of products of adjacent radii, thereby minimizing the required angular space and allowing a smaller ( R ).

General Procedure:

  1. **Ignore the smallest ra...
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Sep 2, 2025, 06:56 AM

Write the radii around the central circle as r1, r2, …, rn in cyclic order, and let R be the radius of the middle circle. If two neighboring outer circles have radii a and b, then the angle at the center between the rays to their centers is θ(a,b;R) = 2 arcsin( sqrt(a/(R+a)) · sqrt(b/(R+b)) ).

Hence, if we define t(r) = sqrt(r/(R+r)) in (0,1), and set ti = t(ri), then for a given cyclic order S(R...

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Notation

Let

 r1 , … , rn ( 1 ≤ r1 < r2 < … < rn = n ) (1)

be the radii of the n outer circles and let R be the (unknown) radius of the middle circle.
Write

 αk(R)=arccos(1−2 rk rk+1 ⁄[(R+rk)(R+rk+1)]) ,  k=1,…,n, (rn+1 = r1)

so that the n central angles are α1,…,αn and the closing condition is

 Fπ(P,R):= α1+…+αn = 2π , ...

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<think> I need to arrange circles of radii 1 through n around a middle circle so that they're all externally tangent to it and not overlapping, and I want to minimize the radius R of the middle circle. The user has a conjecture about how to do this, but I should verify it or find a better way.

First, for n=10, they have two examples: one with radii in order 1 to 10 giving R≈10.77, and another wit...

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Notation
– The radii that have to be placed round the centre are
 1<2<⋯<n.
– We shall write

  θR(x,y)=arccos ( 1− 2xy ⁄[(R+x)(R+y)] )  (1)

 for the angle at the centre that is cut‐off by two adjacent outer circles of radii x and y when the central circle has radius R.

For a concrete ordering σ=(r1,r2,…,rn) of the numbers 1,…,n the condition that the circles close up round the centre ...

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Aug 1, 2025, 12:00 AM

Minimizing the Central Circle Radius When Surrounded by Circles of Radii 1 to n

This problem asks how to arrange circles with radii 1 through n around a central circle such that:

  1. All surrounding circles are externally tangent to the central circle
  2. The surrounding circles don't overlap
  3. The radius of the central circle is minimized

Understanding the Mathematical Constraint

The key c...

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Aug 1, 2025, 12:00 AM

This is a fascinating optimization problem in discrete geometry. Let me analyze your approach and conjecture.

Analysis of Your Mathematical Formulation

Your formulation is correct. The constraint equation:

is indeed the key constraint, where we want to minimize subject to this constraint and the ...

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Aug 1, 2025, 12:00 AM

This is an excellent and well-formulated question about a classic problem in discrete geometry. Your mathematical setup is perfectly correct, and your intuition is heading in the right direction. This problem is known as the "kissing number problem" on a circle, but for circles of unequal radii.

Let's break down the problem to find the optimization strategy.

The Core Idea: Simplifying the Eq...

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One can show (by the usual “adjacent‐swap’’ or “pair‐exchange’’ arguments) that in the optimum configuration no two large circles ever sit next to each other – equivalently one wants to keep each big circle “book-ended’’ by smaller ones. In fact the unique (up to rotation or reflection) minimiser is

 “largest, smallest, 2nd–largest, 2nd–smallest, 3rd–largest, 3rd–smallest, …”

or in symbols, if ...

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