Souslin trees and weakly compact cardinals
Souslin trees and weakly compact cardinals
In Souslin trees on the first inaccessible cardinal it is asked if it is consistent that there are no
In this question I would like to ask an apparently simpler question:
Question. Is it consistent that there are no
Remarks. (A) If
(B) If
(C)
K2-Think
The question asks whether it is consistent that there exists an inaccessible cardinal κ which is not weakly compact, yet has no κ-Souslin trees.
Key Observations:
- Tree Property and Weak Compactness: A weakly compact cardinal κ has the tree property (i.e., no κ-Souslin trees exist), but the converse is not necessarily true. The tree property is a combinatorial condition weaker than wea...
GPT-5
Yes. In fact there are well–known sufficient reflection principles at κ which rule out κ–Souslin trees, and these can be made to hold at some inaccessible κ while the tree property still fails there (so κ is not weakly compact).
Two ingredients:
- From a κ–Souslin tree to a nonreflecting stationary set. For a regular uncountable κ, a κ–Souslin tree T yields a nonreflecting stationary subset of E...
o4 mini
Yes – in fact nothing “mystical’’ prevents an inaccessible κ from carrying Aronszajn‐trees (so κ fails the tree–property) while at the same time failing every one of Jensen’s square–principles so that Jensen’s usual construction of a κ–Souslin tree cannot be carried out. Equivalently one can arrange:
- κ is inaccessible,
- there is a κ‐Aronszajn tree (so κ is not weakly compact),
- ...
o3 Pro
Yes.
Starting from a weakly compact cardinal one can force a model in which
• κ is still inaccessible,
• κ is no longer weakly compact, but
• the tree property holds at κ, i.e. there are no κ-Souslin (κ-Aronszajn) trees.
Thus the consistency strength needed is no more than that of a weakly compact cardinal.
- The idea...
DeepSeek R1
First, recalling some basics: A κ-Souslin tree is a tree of height κ with no branches or antichains of size κ. The tree property at κ means ev...
o3
Yes.
Start with a model V of ZFC in which κ is weakly compact.
Force with the standard club-shooting poset
P = { c ⊂ κ : c is closed, bounded, ⟨c, <⟩ is increasing
and every γ∈c has cofinality ω } ,
ordered by end–extension.
Facts about P:
• Size and closure |P| = κ and P is <κ-closed (indeed κ-closed).
• Cardinal preservation Because of κ-closure, no cardinals <κ are coll...
Gemini 2.5 Pro
This is an excellent question that gets to the heart of the relationship between different large cardinal properties. The answer is yes, it is consistent.
Short Answer:
Yes, assuming the consistency of a strongly compact cardinal, it is consistent that there exists an inaccessible cardinal
Th...
Claude 3.7 Sonnet
Souslin Trees and Weakly Compact Cardinals
This question explores the relationship between inaccessible cardinals, weakly compact cardinals, and the existence of κ-Souslin trees.
Understanding the Question
The question asks whether it's consistent with ZFC that there exists an inaccessible cardinal κ such that:
- κ is not weakly compact
- There are no κ-Souslin trees
To properly underst...
Claude Opus 4
This is an excellent question about the relationship between Souslin trees and large cardinal properties. Let me provide a comprehensive answer.
Answer: Yes, it is consistent.
The consistency of having an inaccessible cardinal
1. Lévy Collapse Method (Kunen)
O...
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