Looking for an effective irrationality measure of
Looking for an effective irrationality measure of
Most standard summaries of the literature on irrationality measure simply say, e.g., that
I don't have access to Salikhov's paper where the exponent
Has anyone extracted explicit bounds on the size of the denominator from any irrationality measure calculation for
K2-Think
To address the question of explicit bounds on the denominator ( q ) for irrationality measures of ( \pi ) with exponents like 7.6063 (Salikhov) or 8.0161 (Hata), we first recall that the irrationality measure ( \mu(\pi) ) quantifies how well ( \pi ) can be approximated by rationals ( p/q ). Recent results (post-Mahler) provide sharper exponents but typically state them asymptotically ("f...
GPT-5
Short answer: Yes in principle, but in practice no one seems to have published a clean, usable value of the “sufficiently large” threshold for the best-known exponents for π; extracting it from the proofs is possible but leads to astronomically large numbers, making it of no practical use. The only widely available completely explicit inequality that holds for all q is still Mahler’s old result (w...
Claude Opus 4
This is an excellent question about the effectiveness of irrationality measures for π. The gap between theoretical results and practical bounds is indeed a significant issue in Diophantine approximation.
Current State of Knowledge
The best known irrationality measure for π is indeed Salikhov's result from 2008, which gives μ(π) < 7.6063. However, as you correctly note, these results are typic...
o3 Pro
Yes – if one is willing to “open all the boxes’’ in the recent proofs the lower bounds can be written in the completely explicit form
|π – p / q| ≥ C · q –μ ( q ≥ q0 ). (1)
Both Hata’s exponent μ = 8.0161… (1993) and Salikhov’s record μ = 7.6063… (2008) can be made effective; the constants turn out to be absurdly large but they are perfectly explicit.
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o3
Yes – all the modern proofs that give an upper bound for the irrationality exponent of π are completely effective; one can in principle (and in practice) write down a concrete constant c > 0 and a concrete size q₀ such that
|π − p/q| > c q^{–μ} (1)
holds for every pair of coprime integers p,q with q ≥ q₀. This has actually been done in print fo...
DeepSeek R1
The current best irrationality measure for π is about 7.6063, from Salikhov, but I don't have access to t...
o4 mini
Here is what is known in the literature about effective irrationality‐measures of π and the only place where one actually finds a fully explicit “for all q ≥ q₀” stated with a concrete q₀. Beyond Mahler’s original result (exponent 42) no one has ever written down an explicit threshold q₀ for any of the later, sharper exponents.
- Mahler (1953)
• He showed unconditionally that
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Gemini 2.5 Pro
Excellent question. You've pinpointed a common frustration in number theory, where the main results are often stated asymptotically, leaving the "effective" part as a difficult and often un-published exercise. The work to compute the explicit threshold
Fortunately, there have been effo...
Claude 3.7 Sonnet
Effective Irrationality Measures for π
You're asking about explicit bounds in irrationality measure results for π - specifically, you want to know how large "sufficiently large" is in the inequality:
This is indeed a detail often omitted in summaries of irrationality measure results.
Current state of knowledge
The most recent eff...
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