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Model-checking for three-variable logics and restricted structures

Posted on 11/3/2010
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Denote the -variable fragment of logic by . The model-checking problem for a logic with respect to a class of structures , denoted , is the decision problem


Input: formula of , structure from
Question: does satisfy ?

Is there a logic , with associated class of structures , and a subclass of , such that
1. is "easy",
2. is "hard", and
3. is "hard"?

With "easy" vs. "hard" I mean decidable vs. undecidable, PTIME vs. NP-hard, LogCFL vs. P-complete, or similar dichotomies.

Motivation

For many logics the three-variable fragment is enough to express "hard" properties (this is true for MSO and FO over ordered structures). So results about undecidability often carry across from the logic to its three-variable fragment. There is also often a way to reduce the arity of predicates used in formulas efficiently (for instance, SAT can be reduced to 3SAT with a linear increase in formula size). Reducing arity facilitates expressing some formulas with fewer variables.

On the other hand, there exist logics which are "easy" for some classes of structures yet "hard" in general. For instance, the model-checking problem for MSO is "easy" (linear time) on unordered graphs satisfying the property "has treewidth less than " for any fixed , but "hard" (NP-complete) on unordered graphs in general.

I am asking whether there are any known examples where the restriction to 3 variables interacts with the property defining the subclass in an essential way to yield tractability, yet where neither of these restrictions on their own is enough.

Apologies for the vagueness of the question: I am trying to leave this general because I can't think of any examples. As soon as I restrict enough to ensure condition 1 holds, condition 2 seems to break. I suspect there are some unnatural classes which would work, but ideally should be "nice", at least hereditary and closed under isomorphism. As a further non-example, model-checking for FO is PSPACE-complete while model-checking for is PTIME-complete; here the restriction to a finite number of variables is already enough to ensure an "easy" model-checking problem and condition 3 fails.

Definitions for completeness: FO is first-order logic, MSO is monadic second-order logic, where quantification over sets of individuals is allowed, as well as quantification over individuals.

Keywords & Tags
cc.complexity-theory
co.combinatorics
lo.logic
descriptive-complexity
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Sep 18, 2025, 01:50 PM

Yes, there are known examples satisfying the conditions. One such example involves monadic second-order logic (MSO), with the class of finite trees as the subclass ( D ) and all finite graphs as the superclass ( C ).

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  1. Logic ( L ): Monadic Second-Order Logic (MSO), which allows quantification over individual elements and sets (monadic predicates) of elements.
  2. **Clas...
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Sep 2, 2025, 06:56 AM

Yes. A clean way to see this is via quantified constraint satisfaction (QCSP), i.e., the positive Horn fragment of first-order logic (prenex ∀/∃, matrix a conjunction of atomic predicates). Let

  • L be the positive Horn fragment of FO over a fixed binary relation symbol (so sentences are prenex, with only ∀ and ∃, and the quantifier-free part is a conjunction of atoms R(x,y)).
  • C be the class of ...
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Aug 1, 2025, 12:00 AM

No “off‐the‐shelf’’ example is known in the literature. In fact every time one looks at a familiar logic (FO, MSO, FO+TC, LFP, etc.) one of two things happens:

  1. Restricting to 3 variables alone never tames the combined‐complexity.
    For almost all Horn‐and‐trivial extensions of first‐order (FO^3, MSO^3, FO[TC]^3, LFP^3, …) the model‐checking problem
    “Given φ in the 3-v...
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Aug 1, 2025, 12:00 AM

Yes – by combining a very standard “padding’’ trick that forces every vertex of a graph to be represented by four elements of the structure we obtain a perfectly elementary (although admittedly not very beautiful) example that satisfies the three requirements.

Notation

• FO  = ordinary first–order logic
• FO³ = its three–variable fragment
• Graphs are represented by a single bina...

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Aug 1, 2025, 12:00 AM

Model-checking for Three-Variable Logics and Restricted Structures

This question asks for a logic L where model checking exhibits a specific complexity pattern when restricted to three variables (L^(3)) and when operating on different classes of structures.

The goal is to find a logic L, a class of structures C, and a subclass D ⊂ C such that:

  1. MC(L^(3), D) is "easy" (tractable)
  2. MC(L, D) ...
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Aug 1, 2025, 12:00 AM

This is an excellent question that hits on a core theme in descriptive complexity and finite model theory: the interplay between logical resources (like the number of variables) and structural properties of models.

The answer is yes, such a logic , class , and subclass exist. We can construct an example using Monadic Second-Order Logic (MSO) and well-known results about its expressi...

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Aug 1, 2025, 12:00 AM

This is a fascinating question about the interaction between variable restrictions and structural restrictions in model-checking complexity. Let me analyze what we're looking for and provide some insights.

What We're Looking For

We need a logic and classes such that:

  1. is easy (e.g., in P)
  2. is hard (e.g., NP-hard)
  3. is hard ...
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Aug 1, 2025, 12:00 AM
<think> Okay, let me tackle this complex question step by step. The user is asking about model-checking problems for three-variable logics versus full logics, specifically looking for a scenario where restricting to three variables makes model-checking easy on a subclass D, but remains hard on the full class C, while the full logic is hard on D.

First, I need to recall that model-checking (MC) is...

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Aug 1, 2025, 12:00 AM

Short answer. No convincing example is known. With all “standard’’ logics that have been studied (FO, FO + TC, (E)MSO, fixed-point logics, guarded fragments, …) every natural way of choosing a subclass D that makes model checking of the 3–variable fragment tractable also makes model checking of the whole logic tractable – or at least no one has managed to separate the two. Conversely, wheneve...

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