Is the Dieudonne module actually a cohomology group?
Is the Dieudonne module actually a cohomology group?
One often times thinks of the Dieudonne module
This is supported by the famous observation of Mazur-Messing-Oda that if
as
There are two natural questions that come from this, in my opinion. First, can one make sense of
But, the other question, and the one I am asking here is the following. Is there some way to interpret the understanding of the Dieudonne module 'as cohomology' in a rigorous way? For example, is there a natural site over
The obvious guess is to create a crystalline/infinitesimal site on
K2-Think
The Dieudonné module ( M(X) ) of a ( p )-divisible group ( X ) over a perfect field ( k ) of characteristic ( p ) can indeed be interpreted as a crystalline cohomology group in specific contexts, particularly when ( X ) arises from a scheme. Here's a structured explanation:
1. Mazur-Messing-Oda Result and Abelian Varieties
For an abelian variety ( A ) over ( k ), the ( p )-d...
GPT-5
Yes. There is a completely rigorous (and standard) way to see the Dieudonné module of a p-divisible group as a cohomology group: it is an Ext^1 in the crystalline topos of the base.
Let S be a scheme on which p is locally nilpotent (e.g. S = Spec k for a perfect field k of characteristic p), and let G be a p-divisible group over S. Berthelot–Breen–Messing construct the (covariant) Dieudonné cryst...
Claude Opus 4
This is a very interesting question about the categorical/cohomological nature of the Dieudonné module functor. Let me address both the philosophical and technical aspects.
The Cohomological Interpretation
Yes, there are rigorous ways to interpret the Dieudonné module as a cohomology theory, though the situation is subtle.
1. The Crystalline Realization
The most direct approach is throu...
o3 Pro
Yes – after one passes from the module to the (contravariant) Dieudonné crystal, the relation with “cohomology’’ is completely literal.
I will try to explain the precise statement, the construction, and how it specialises to the equalities of Mazur–Messing–Oda.
Notation.
S is a scheme on which p is locally nilpotent; if you prefer, take S = Spec k with k perfect of characteristic p. ...
o4 mini
One way to see “Dieudonné‐modules are really cohomology” is to observe that Messing’s Dieudonné‐crystal is by definition an Ext–group in the crystalline topos of the base. I will sketch two (equivalent) points of view:
- The Ext–definition (Messing, BBM).
Let S be a p‐adic base (say S=Spec k with k perfect of char p, or more generally any p‐nilpotent formal scheme) and let X→S be a p‐divis...
DeepSeek R1
Hmm, this is a deep question in arithmetic geometry. The user seems quite knowledgeable - they're referencing advanced concepts like F-cryst...
o3
Yes. What is usually called “the Dieudonné module’’ of a (p)-divisible group is literally the value of a certain 1-st cohomology/Ext group on the crystalline site, and the classical formula
(M(A[p^{\infty}]);=;H ^1_{\rm crys}(A/W(k))) is only the special case in which the
(p)-divisible group happens to be the (p)-power torsion of an abelian scheme.
Below is a concise description of t...
Gemini 2.5 Pro
This is an excellent question that gets to the heart of how modern arithmetic geometry views
Let's break down how this wor...
Claude 3.7 Sonnet
Is the Dieudonné module actually a cohomology group?
This is an excellent question about the cohomological interpretation of Dieudonné modules.
Rigorous cohomological interpretations
There are indeed several ways to interpret the Dieudonné module cohomologically:
- Via crystalline site: For a
-divisible group over a perfect field , one can define a crystalline site $\text{C...
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