conjectures regarding a new Renyi information quantity
conjectures regarding a new Renyi information quantity
In a recent paper http://arxiv.org/abs/1403.6102, we defined a quantity that we called the "Renyi conditional mutual information" and investigated several of its properties. We have some open conjectures, and I would like to pose them as open questions to the mathematics community on this forum. Perhaps there is a simple resolution, but we have considered known approaches and it appears that new tools are necessary for solving these problems (or maybe known tools could work?).
Background
Let
We define the "Renyi conditional mutual information" of order
We can easily prove that the above quantity is "monotone under a local quantum operation acting on system
Conjectures/Questions
We have several conjectures which (to fit the MathOverflow format) could be converted into questions in obvious ways (e.g., are the statements true? please provide an argument or counterexample, etc.).
Conjecture 1:
The quantity
is "monotone under a local quantum operation acting on system " for all , i.e., the following inequality holds where and is a completely positive trace preserving linear map acting on system . (Numerical evidence indicates that this conjecture should be true.)
Conjecture 2:
The Renyi conditional mutual information of order
should be monotone increasing in the Renyi parameter , i.e., if , then (Numerical evidence indicates that this conjecture should be true as well, and we furthermore have proofs that it is true in some special cases (for in a neighborhood of one and when ).)
These are the basic conjectures, but please consult our paper for more general forms of them. Solving the first conjecture would be very interesting for us, as it would establish the Renyi conditional mutual as a true "Renyi generalization" of the "von Neumann style" quantum conditional mutual information. Solving the second conjecture would have widespread implications throughout quantum information theory and even for condensed matter physics (topological order - pdf).
K2-Think
The conjectures regarding the Renyi conditional mutual information are likely true based on the following reasoning:
Conjecture 1 (Monotonicity under local operation on A):
The Renyi conditional mutual information ( I_\alpha(A;B|C) ) is designed to generalize the von Neumann conditional mutual information, which is known to be monotonic under local operations on any subsystem. The problem s...
GPT-5
Short answer: Both conjectures are true (in the finite-dimensional setting you state) for the Petz-type Rényi conditional mutual information you defined, for the whole range α ∈ [0,2]. They were settled using new multivariate trace inequalities developed after your preprint appeared.
More detail and references
- Monotonicity under local operations on A (Conjecture 1). Sutter, Berta, and Tomamich...
Gemini 2.5 Pro
This question from MathOverflow, posted by user Mark M. Wilde, introduces two open conjectures about a new information-theoretic quantity defined in a recent paper co-authored by the user.
Summary of the Question
The question concerns a new quantity called the Renyi conditional mutual information, denoted
o3 Pro
Both problems have now been settled; they turned out to be two special cases of a more general set of trace‐inequalities that were proved after the appearance of your preprint.
References that contain the full proofs
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D. Sutter, M. Berta & M. Tomamichel
“Multivariate trace inequalities”
Commun. Math. Phys. 352, 37–58 (2017) – arXiv:1603.07300 -
M. Berta, K. Seshadreesan & M. M. Wil...
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Below is a brief status report on the two conjectures you raised in Berta–Tomamichel–Wilde (arXiv 1403.6102). As far as I know, both remain open in full generality, although a number of partial results and closely related developments have appeared.
- Monotonicity under a CPTP on A (Conjecture 1)
• **What is known**
– Trivial cases:
• α=1 reduces to the usua...
Claude 3.7 Sonnet
Analysis of Renyi Conditional Mutual Information Conjectures
This question addresses two conjectures about a new information-theoretic quantity called the "Renyi conditional mutual information" introduced in arXiv:1403.6102 (Berta, Seshadreesan, and Wilde).
Understanding the Definition
The Renyi conditional mutual information of order α is defined as:
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Both questions have in the meantime been settled in the affirmative; the quantity that you introduced really is a legitimate Rényi–generalisation of the quantum conditional mutual information.
- Monotonicity under a channel on A (Conjecture 1)
Let
Kρ := ρ...
DeepSeek R1
First, I need to understand the context. The user is likely a researcher in quantum information theory, given the technical depth and the ar...
Claude Opus 4
These are fascinating conjectures about quantum information theory. Let me analyze them and suggest some potential approaches.
Analysis of the Conjectures
Understanding the Quantity
The Renyi conditional mutual information you've defined:
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